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liveDaily Interview: 'American Idol' star Clay Aiken
by Christina Fuoco
July 25, 2003 04:46 PM - "American Idol" runner-up Clay Aiken seems naturally inclined to be impeccably nice. While speaking to liveDaily by phone, he pulls up to First Union Arena in Wilkes-Barre, PA, and quickly diverts his attention to a fan.
"Oh here. Let me give you a hug," he says to the admirer.
Aiken, 24, of Raleigh, NC, made his way into the hearts of "American Idol" fans by being nice--and having the type of voice that raises the roofs of Broadway theaters.
His first single, "This is the Night/Bridge over Troubled Water," debuted at No. 1, besting "Flying Without Wings/Superstar" by "Idol"-winner Ruben Studdard. The Aiken cut sold nearly 393,000 copies in its first week, making it the biggest debut since Elton John's 1997 "Candle in the Wind" remake surrounding the death of Princess Diana.
Aiken's sales success isn't good enough for some of his fans, apparently. A group of them recently wrote to the FCC claiming that the "American Idol" results were fixed, something that Aiken laughs at. However, the FCC reportedly is looking into the matter.
Aiken talked to liveDaily about his forthcoming album--due out in September--the "American Idols Live" tour and the perils of being popular.
liveDaily: How's the tour going so far?
Clay Aiken: It's going really well. We're having a good time with it. We had some rough dress rehearsals but our shows have been extremely, extremely good.
What was rough about the dress rehearsals?
Oh, we were just forgetting when we were supposed to come in; not knowing our songs, all that stuff. We just had trouble with that. I didn't know the words to some of my songs until the first show.
What are some of the songs that you're singing?
I'm doing "This is the Night" and Ruben and I are doing stuff that will be coming off of our new albums. We're having a good time with it.
Is your album finished?
It's almost done. I'm driving to New York [on July 16] to finish up one [song on July 17], and then I'll be finished. I'm lovin' being finished. Hopefully I can relax.
Who are some of the songwriters you worked with?
Chris Braide worked on "This is the Night," ?; Cathy Dennis, she wrote "A Moment Like This" from last year's show. And just a bunch of big-name producers: Clif Magness, who did some stuff with Avril Lavigne; Rick Knowles, who works with Savage Garden, Santana and Michelle Branch; Steve Morales, who did all the Enrique [Iglesias] and Shakira stuff.
What can people expect from it?
The nice thing about it is that it's not a huge departure for me. The record company, myself and the management group have been able to really agree on what we'd like to see from it. We're not going to see a lot of hardcore, inappropriate stuff that I'm not all for. A lot of the stuff is like "This is the Night." It's a pop-flavored album. I think there's a lot of people out there who may not be the best influence for kids. I wouldn't want my kids listening to some of the stuff out there. None of the stuff on the album is like that.
What do you think about all the complaints that "American Idol" was fixed?
It's kind of flattering because it's coming from fans who like me, and all that stuff. But I was on the show and involved closely in it for a long time, and I know everyone who was involved in it. I totally trust the outcome of the show. It was so close. It wasn't like the outcome was 70 to 30 percent. I completely trust the results. Sometimes I just wish people would put their energies into supporting a charity or something like that instead of calling the FCC. (laughs) It concerns me because Ruben's a good, good friend of mine. I totally am proud of him and support everything that he does. Both of us really got exactly what we wanted out of this show. We both went into it hoping to get a recording contract and get this type of career--and we both got it. He's got the title and that's what different. Other than that, we're both having a great time and I'm totally happy with where I am. So, people who want to write letters can write letters to the Autism Society and help them out. (laughs)
How have you handled the sudden stardom?
It's been difficult. It's hard to look at our pictures in newspapers and on magazines and all that type of stuff and think of it as anything more than, "Oh, it's just me. That's my picture. That's not a big deal. Who cares what cover it's on. Who cares what magazine it's in. It's just me." People who scream and cheer for us, it's like, "Wow." It's really hard to take in a lot of times. We're just ourselves when we go up there and sing. It's amazing that--what, nine months after we started the show?--so many people want to be around us and hear us.
How do you get used to that?
You don't. I don't think you can. Every night something's different and new. Last night I had panties thrown on the stage. Every night it's something different. It's extremely flattering every single night. It's all a new experience. It's something that we all wanted to do for so long. We're just enjoying the ride and trying to take it all in.
How do you keep from laughing when women throw their panties on stage when you're trying to sing?
I laughed, right there in front of them. (laughs) How can you try to not laugh? The lady who was sitting in the front, I just asked her, "Please tell me you weren't wearing these before you threw them on stage." It's very funny. I'm not used to it, don't worry.
What is the format of the "American Idols Live" show?
We start with Charlie Grigsby, and the first half is all solos. We start with Charlie and work all the way to Ruben through the first half. The second half is all group songs, medleys, Ruben and I do a duet, Ruben and I both sing our songs from our album during the second half. The guys sing together, the girls sing together. We do a tribute to the Bee Gees.
What song do you and Ruben do together?
That's a surprise!
What is it like to tour with the other "Idols"?
We know each other so well. I think that's what's so cool about it. We've all known each other for nine months now. We know where everybody came from. We're all just friends. Nobody gets star struck at anybody. Everybody's just hangin'. We've known each other for so long that we're really like a family. We travel together. We live together and all that stuff. We definitely enjoy being together. We really perform well together. We used to rehearse for the show and just have the nastiest rehearsals on Wednesday mornings and Wednesday afternoons. Then when the show hit the airwaves on Wednesday nights, our medleys would come together flawlessly. That's just the way the whole show has worked because we know each other so well.
By FRED BRONSON
Q: Did you know you share Dick Clark's birthday?
A: I do. And Winston Churchill's birthday.
Q: I figured you would know that. You were born on Nov. 30.
A: Nov. 30, 1978. I was born in Raleigh [N.C.]. Spent my whole life in Raleigh. Never left Raleigh until I did this show. Well, that's a little exaggerated.
Q: When did music come into your life?
A: I'd sing at home and my mom would try to convince me to sing at church. She worked at Sears for a long time and there was a big family environment there. They would pay me a dollar to stand up on the carpet samples and sing a song.
Q: How old were you?
A: Maybe 3. When I was 5, there was a high school in the area that did a winter dance, and they had a mascot every year who would sing. It was 1984. I sang "Islands In the Stream," a big No. 1 hit, and won. I remember being up there and everybody was laughing at me and I said, "Mom, they're laughing at me," and she said, "No, they think you're cute."
Q: How did people know when you were 3 to ask you to sing?
A: It wasn't that I could sing really well. It was just that I would do it. Some kids are shy and I was never very shy. So it was not, "Oh, he's so talented" at 3 years old. It was just, "He'll make a fool of himself on the carpet samples, so let's let him do it." At 5, I had shown that I could stay on pitch.
Q: Were you listening to the radio at that age? Were you buying records?
A: I was listening to the radio, whatever my mom played, which was the oldies station or the country station. I saw one of those magazines that said "12 for the price of one." Back then they were LPs. I don't know how I was smart enough at 7 years old to put it in the mail and order the 12. The only one I can remember was a Crystal Gayle album. My mom was furious with the company for allowing a 7-year-old to do that. But all I had to do was tape a penny to that little piece of cardboard and send it in.
Q: Did you add to your repertoire?
A: There was a song called "Baby's Got Her Blue Jeans On." We were at the beach and there was a Christian puppet show. They asked for anybody who wanted to sing to come up. My mom was so afraid that I was going to sing "Baby's Got Her Blue Jeans On." I sang "Kumbaya," so I knew what the audience wanted even then.
Q: What kind of encouragement did you get from your family?
A: When I was a kid, my mom let me try everything. She'd drive me to play soccer, play baseball, and I did T-ball for a long time until she realized, "he can't even run. That's how unathletic he is." So she said, "You know what? Let's just let him sing. That's all he wants to do." There was a boys choir in Raleigh. It was not the type of music I liked but it let me sing. My mom supported me in doing that type of thing. She was never a stage mommy, just drove me to things and if somebody needed help to fundraise, she'd work the ticket booth. When I was in high school, choir wasn't enough, so I did some musicals.
Q: Did you ever have a private vocal coach?
A: I took piano lessons for about four months, and that was too much. And then I took singing lessons for about two months and that was too much.
Q: What were your career plans at that time?
A: Every time I'd do a play, I said, "This is what I want to do for the rest of my life." Every time I'd sing in choir, "This is what I want to do for the rest of my life." And then I got out of high school and I realized, "I don't think this is what I want to do." I thought about going to school for music and I said, no, I'm not sure that I want to be a musician. I'm so not big on instability and I did not want to knock on doors for the rest of my life and hope somebody would hear me.
Q: So you didn't pursue a music degree, but you enrolled in college. What did you study?
A: Special education. I fell in love with working with individuals with autism and I planned my life out. I was going to teach for six years and then I wanted to go to William & Mary to get my Masters in administration. I still would love to. At the same time I wanted to become a principal. [That's how] I saw myself at 50 years old. My life was totally planned out and now I've taken a fork in the road and I have zero plans, like the road is not even built yet. I don't even know what's going to happen next week. You know, people could stop buying the record today. People could take it back into the stores.
Q: Don't worry, most stores won't take back singles. But seriously, you were taking care of an autistic child. Tell me how you met the family.
A: I worked in an autism classroom in an elementary school in Raleigh for two years while going to school part time. [Then] an agency set me up with a family with a 17-year-old. I worked with them for about a year. I went home from school for the summer, came back and was placed with Mike Bubel and worked with him for a year, then went home for the summer and my dad passed away. I didn't watch "American Idol" at all. I went back with the Bubels and Diane, the mother, said I had to audition for "American Idol."
Q: You had not seen the show at this point?
A: I remember seeing someone sing "My Girl" and I changed the channel. I guess you've got to hear [notoriously critical judge] Simon [Cowell] speak before you get hooked. You're thinking, "He's so mean! What is he going to say to the next one?" When I got back home I watched the episode where Tamyra [Gray] got kicked off, and I thought, "What a crappy show! She was so good!" Diane said, "You've got to audition for this." And I said, "No, I want to be on 'The Amazing Race.'"
Q: So you liked "The Amazing Race?"
A: Are you kidding me? I was addicted to it. It's such a good show. I had the application ready to send in and my roommate Amy was going to go with me. I was going to send it in with another person, just in case that team didn't work. But Diane said, "No, you've got to audition for 'American Idol.'" She kept bugging me. I said, "Fine. I'll do it if you stop nagging me."
Q: How did Diane know that you had vocal talent?
A: I was with them for a year and a half, so I just sang around the house.
Q: On the Internet, there are MP3 files of you singing "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me" and some other songs.
A: My mother gave me some studio time as a graduation gift and we made a tape of some songs that she liked to hear me sing. "Dream Lover" is on there, and "Unchained Melody" and "Don't Let the Sun Go Down On Me."
Q: Did you try to do anything with those recordings?
A: If I sang somewhere, we'd try to sell them, but they just sat around.
Q: You didn't send them to record companies?
A: No. I was totally content with my life and thought this would be a good hobby. Then Diane convinced me and I went down to Atlanta and sat in line for two days. ... The first audition was probably the most nerve-wracking because I didn't want to get cut on Sunday and have to drive back on Monday and have everybody say, "I thought you were going to be gone for auditions." Patrick Lynn was the producer who picked me and I was the only person of his who made the top 12. But they lost people left and right.
Q: What did you sing for Patrick?
A: I didn't know what I was going to sing, even up to the last minute. I thought "Unchained Melody" was too slow. Right before I went in, I decided I'll do "Always And Forever." I stepped forward and what comes out of my mouth, I'm not kidding you, the theme song to "Perfect Strangers," the TV show. He dismissed everybody else and said, "Sing something else. That was a little stagy." No kidding! Then finally I sang "Always And Forever" and I stuck with that.
Q: When did you audition again?
A: On Wednesday [I auditioned for co-executive producer] Nigel [Lythgoe]. Nigel scared me to death because he said, "I don't care how good you can sing. I don't care if you're the worst person in the world. I'm looking for someone that I can put on a TV show. I'm looking for someone with personality." Well, that scared me, because I didn't really have one. So I was very nervous. I sang "Always And Forever" and he said, "You're a crooner. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I'll let you through. When you sing tomorrow, I want you to really sing it to Paula." So the next day, what judge is not there? Paula. I said I'm just going to go in and have a good time. There's no way I'm going to make it. I might as well enjoy myself.
Q: Simon and Randy seemed puzzled about what to do with you. Was there anything cut from your audition that we didn't see on the air?
A: The only thing that was cut was when Simon said, "The girl who came in before you looks like a pop star, but she has nowhere near the voice you have. We're looking for a pop star, but you have a great voice. What do we do?" And then I said, "Put me through and let America decide," which I'm glad they cut because I would have sounded like an idiot. Looking back on it I think, how many times did I deserve to get cut? Or how many times was I right on the line? That first day, there were 7,000 people in that room. They could have just said, "We've got too many today. We're going to let him go," or "The person who comes in next might be better." There was a guy in my group of five who was just as good as me, and he didn't make it through. Nigel could have let me go because he didn't think I had enough personality. Simon clearly had reservations, but he let me through anyway.
Q: Yet you seemed to exude confidence. When Simon asked, "Why are you here?" and you said, "Because I am the 'American Idol.'"
A: When we were waiting to audition, Simon came out and said, "If we ask you if you're the 'American Idol,' you better not say, 'I hope so.' You better not say, 'I think so.' You better say 'Yes.'" He wanted confidence and so I came in and I said it. I didn't necessarily believe it, but I had to say it because I was afraid that's what I needed to get through.
Q: Appearance and image was a big issue in the second season of "American Idol."
A: I think there's a difference between appearance and image. An image is not how you look. It's what you do. It's what you portray. Your personality, the example you set, and that's huge for me. I don't have a problem with my image if that's the definition of it, because I think that certain people out there who have the best attire, who have nothing but style, have a bad image. I wouldn't want my kids watching them, no matter how great their voice is or how nicely dressed they are; they don't set the best example. But appearance -- I never really considered that to be a problem. I've never seen a pop star wear glasses, so I had to get rid of them. I thought that was it. Apparently I was a lot uglier to start with. You grow up in Raleigh, you don't have Dolce & Gabbana everywhere. You don't have Prada and all that stuff. So I was wearing some Express clothes and I had some khaki pants on and I thought I was looking O.K.
Q: Did they suggest changes in your hair and clothes?
A: They just said, "You need some help." I'm very irreverent with my hair. It's not sacred to me. So I said, "Do whatever looks good. Just make my ears look small." But I was really hesitant with clothes because there were certain things I'm not comfortable with. I don't like wearing T-shirts. It took me a little longer to warm up to [wardrobe supervisor] Miles [Siggins]. I didn't let him do anything on that first top-32 show. I came in dressed how I wanted to dress and then on the wild card show, I let him help me a little bit more and then the rest of the show, I finally gave up. "Miles, I trust you completely. Go ahead and do what you want to do." He picked every outfit for me until I told him what I wanted to wear for the last show.
Q: We can't talk about "American Idol" without discussing Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul and Randy Jackson. What impact did the judges have on you?
A: Randy and Paula told you when they thought something was wrong. They didn't have any problems being constructively critical, but they were very supportive backstage. They were thrilled to see you and would give you a hug or talk to you and they were very honest. But they tempered it in a way that a family member would. "I'm telling you this because I love you. That was not that great. You could have done better. You should have moved more."
Q: And you want that.
A: Right. Simon was like the wicked stepbrother. He's an honest guy. He realizes he's the reason this show is so popular, but he doesn't take his persona too seriously. He doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings. That's not his intention. He's going to tell the honest truth, and I think for that reason, Simon scared me while I was on the show. Simon probably made me work harder than anybody else, because I was never really worried about what Randy and Paula were going to say. I wouldn't second-guess myself, but I tried to second-guess Simon. Sometimes he'd give criticism that I could do something with. He's the one you don't want to tick off, but he's the one you want to make happy, then you work on it.
Q: When did you know you would get a recording contract?
A: That night, the finale night, when Simon told the country that our albums were going to come out on the same day. That's the first time I knew about it. So I knew that I was going to be signed to RCA. I was told right then.
Q: You've been busy recording your album and promoting your single, and now you've got an extensive tour that kicks off July 8 in St. Paul, Minn. When will you have time to rehearse?
A: The rehearsals for the tour will start in late June in St. Paul. During rehearsals, Ruben and I will be alternating rehearsing and recording. The same will likely take place throughout the tour.
Q: Have you been in touch with the other contestants since the finale? Will the rehearsals for the tour be the first time you've seen each other since that last show?
A: I talk to Ruben every day, because we know each other's schedules pretty well. I try to talk to Kim Locke once a week if possible. It will be the first time we have seen each other since the finale!
DJ: This guy was on the AI, wound up being the runner up on AI. And he is a great guy. We had a chance to speak with to the one and only Clay Aiken backstage at the Worcester Centrum
DJ Freddie: We are backstage at AI with Clay Aiken in the flesh. How are your doing Clay?
Clay: Clay Aiken fresh from waking up from a nap so he's kinda sleepy. But, Hey, I am okay
DJ The hair looks like it got done. I mean Is that bed head, because that looks good to me kid.
Clay: Well that's what the whole thing is you know It's suppossed to look like it's messed up so I really don't do much to it . We work really hard to make it look messy. (laughs)
DJ Sounds nice and easy
DJ Clay said the Friday nights show in Worcester was the best show on the entire tour, really?
Clay: Um, It's just, every show is different. Um... I think um last night was a really good show for us. We were all "on" last night We had a nice break in Boston. We um We uh we had a good crowd last night so uh I think that made it excellent
DJ That song Invisible that you did on the stage. Is that the next single? We had to really bring in the paramedics for DJ Anne Durand. We thought the poor women was going to pass out.
Clay, Um, well, we don't know that Invisible is the first single yet. Um, It's just uh It's a song on the album.
DJ: By the end of the tour everyone was singing along Clay .It's really really amazing.
Clay: It's a really catchy song. It catches... I mean the first time I heard the demo I was singing along in the second chorus. So you know It's a really catchy song and that's what's great about it.
DJ. Clay, you are a such great performer and you really have incredible stage prescence. How do you prepare for a gig like this?
Clay: Um, I think, I think the show is what prepared us. We really were we went through the ringer with that , we went through the fire. You know 40,000,000 people watching you on TV whether they are sitting in front of you or not you know they are there with those cameras and with Simon Cowell telling you how horrible you are. You just get prepared. I mean we got the best and worst of everything with that show.
So we were really prepared for, ...I mean I wouldn't say we were prepared for anything, but we were prepared for alot more than just the show by the program.
Dj Now, how is the grind? Touring is not an easy life, it is not all glitz or glamour. You guys came from home towns across Americ, put together and now you are touring the country like rock stars. Is everyone doing all right?
Clay: Believe it or not it is acutally somewhat easier you know than what my schedule was right after the show. Ruben and I were so busy after the show. I mean I was in London, Miami and NY um doing recording the album and the nice thing about the tour is there is routine.
(Clay yawns ) Look at me I am yawning right now, I am sorry, I am boring myself to death! (laughs)
There is routine I have a book that tells me what city I have to be in. And, you know no matter what's going on I've GOT to to be in Boston..in Worcester tonight and I HAVE to be in Philadelphia tomrrow night... you know for the show. So there is routine that goes along with it and that um makes things a little easier, beleve it or not. I don't have to be in control of what's happening, I just need to know what's coming next. and with a tour you pretty much always know whats coming next which is nice
DJ: I was interested to compare last years tour with this years tour. Now did you see any of last years shows?
Clay: Well, my father passed away last summer so we were kinda preoccupied.
DJ: It seems like the live performances this year are so much better than last years
Clay: (laughs) Well, thank you very much. You know I think that last year's tour was kinda impromptu. They played off of the fanatacism of the show and this year they were more prepared. I think they have been planning this tour since the top 12 started.
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